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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 02 Oct 2010, 01:39

Found some newer estimates, I don't know if they're totally true so I won't edit my post, but here are the newer estimates:

338,000 - Chasing Lights (#9)
81,000 - Wordshaker (#9)
62,480 - Headlines (#3) [Official Figure]

107,000 - If This Is Love (#8)
311,000 - Up (#5)
245,000 - Issues (#4)
254,000 - Just Can't Get Enough (#2)
101,000 - Work (#22)
160,000 - Forever Is Over (#2)
302,000 - Ego (#9)
161,205 - Missing You (#3) [Official Figure]
25,426 - Higher (#22) [Official Figure]
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 02 Oct 2010, 02:27

Nice to see all their (released) singles have passed now the 100k mark.

thank you for the update! :)
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 02 Oct 2010, 02:58

You're welcome!

100k for a single that missed the Top 20 is just extraordinary to me!
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 02 Oct 2010, 03:06

They've sold more than 1.6 million singles in the UK in 2 years. They might not be album sellers nowadays, but they have done quite good on the singles market. No wonder why they weren't dropped after the Wordshaker fiasco.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby spicefreak » 02 Oct 2010, 12:44

1.6 million thats really not bad at all, i am suprised!!
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 02 Oct 2010, 14:26

Works out as about 200k per single, which is "ok" for these days.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Stewie » 02 Oct 2010, 17:54

I can see a 'Work to the top' kind of campaign in their future :laugh:
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby schizophonic_spice » 02 Oct 2010, 20:33

I wish Headlines sales were better I mean after two months of not leaving the top 40 you'd think they would have reached nearer 100k

I hope it continues to sell
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby mysterious » 02 Oct 2010, 22:56

actually I think that the Higher full on release will help the album sales more than the single's, that's probably the reason why it is being released so late. it'll be already a period of strong album sales in November I suppose.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Charmingspice5 » 03 Oct 2010, 01:03

hmm not bad at all, So far they've sold around 250k with the album and Missing You/Higher, I just hope they continue to do well
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 03 Oct 2010, 03:03

Currently Headlines isn't in the Top 100 best selling albums of 2010.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 03 Oct 2010, 14:51

Jay wrote:Currently Headlines isn't in the Top 100 best selling albums of 2010.

No wonder why. :D
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby schizophonic_spice » 04 Oct 2010, 15:13

The current #29 album sold just less than 6k this week so Headlines must be on around 68,000 now

MY must be around 167,000 and Higher around 36/37,000 now
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 22 Oct 2010, 15:50

Just to keep track of the updated sales Jay has posted (rounded figures).

338,000 - Chasing Lights (#9)
81,000 - Wordshaker (#9)
86,000 - Headlines (#3)

107,000 - If This Is Love (#8)
311,000 - Up (#5)
245,000 - Issues (#4)
254,000 - Just Can't Get Enough (#2)
101,000 - Work (#22)
160,000 - Forever Is Over (#2)
302,000 - Ego (#9)
181,000 - Missing You (#3)
93,000 - Higher (#22)




Singles rank:
311,000 - Up (#5)
302,000 - Ego (#9)
254,000 - Just Can't Get Enough (#2)
245,000 - Issues (#4)
181,000 - Missing You (#3)
160,000 - Forever Is Over (#2)
107,000 - If This Is Love (#8)
101,000 - Work (#22)
93,000 - Higher (#22)

total singles: 1,755,000


I wonder if Ego will eventually outsell Up.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby schizophonic_spice » 22 Oct 2010, 20:13

I think Ego could well sell out Up however Up could aoso keep growing in sales too
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 22 Oct 2010, 23:45

That's why I wonder if it will, because they're both old singles that keep on selling slowly so they could end up outselling each other during the years to come.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby AtomicMarcusKitten » 28 Oct 2010, 18:06

Wow, so from these sales they've sold 2,237,000! Quite amazing, I think. They're definitly on their way to becoming one of the best selling girl groups in the UK.

I think "Ego" will outsell "up" in the future as its almost two years newer, and on their new album. When they bring out a compilation album, which should be soon, as artists usually bring one out during every 3/4 studio albums , this could all change.

Do you think they'll ever go international? I think they could make it big in Australia, New Zealand and Germany.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 28 Oct 2010, 18:28

AtomicMarcusKitten wrote:They're definitly on their way to becoming one of the best selling girl groups in the UK.

Long way to go yet. I don't know about official figures, but the Sugababes and Girls Aloud have sold more than twice as much as them and I guess Atomic Kitten have sold more than them. All Saints have also sold more than them (in fact, with just one single they sold nearly as much as all TS singles combined).

So I think The Saturdays are only ahead of groups like Cleopatra, The 411, Girls Can't Catch and some other unknown bands. But they're working on it, they're a relative 'new' act that has been around for 2 years and 3 months.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby AtomicMarcusKitten » 28 Oct 2010, 18:56

haha! Well Atomic Kitten, Girls Aloud and Sugababes have all sold 10 million internationly. But AK have sold 5 million nationally, and I think GA and SB have sold about 7 million nationally. All Saints have sold about 6 million and Spice Girls and Destiny's Child god knows... But still, they're in the top ten definitly ;DD

Do you think they'll ever go international?
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 28 Oct 2010, 21:19

AtomicMarcusKitten wrote:haha! Well Atomic Kitten, Girls Aloud and Sugababes have all sold 10 million internationly. But AK have sold 5 million nationally, and I think GA and SB have sold about 7 million nationally. All Saints have sold about 6 million and Spice Girls and Destiny's Child god knows... But still, they're in the top ten definitly ;DD

Do you think they'll ever go international?

Destiny's Child aren't a UK band.

I don't think they'll go international. Girls Aloud haven't done it and they're on the same label, so if the label didn't invest money on international promotion with an act that was more successful I don't think they'll do it now with The Sats.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby mysterious » 28 Oct 2010, 21:48

^^but actually I think that The Sats style and vibe is more appealling internationally than GA's. but yeah, I can see that they haven't got a solid ground in the UK yet to go abroad, which is a shame.
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby AtomicMarcusKitten » 28 Oct 2010, 22:44

I know Destiny's child aren't a UK band, i thought we were going on about sales in the UK haha.

And yerrrr true
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Jay » 29 Oct 2010, 05:33

They already tried a bit of promotion abroad! They went to the Philippines in Summer 2009. Kind of random and clearly nothing came of it. I haven't read their book, but this brief foray outside of the UK seems to be a forgotten moment in their story so far.

The Saturdays' singles sales range from average to good for this day and age. When comparing to girl groups of yesteryear, The Saturdays' sales do seem very impressive, but it's not a very fair comparison because of the differences in markets over the years.

For example, 'Ego' has sold something like 305,000. Compare that to Sugababes' 'Freak Like Me', which sold 275,000 in total. 'Freak Like Me' is generally considered to be a massive hit single, one of the most defining songs of 2002. Was 'Ego' bigger than 'Freak Like Me' because it sold more? I don't think so, but if you only take into account sales, then yes, 'Ego' sold better, and therefore contributed more to their overall sales total than 'Freak Like Me' did for the Sugababes.

When it comes to The Saturdays, looking to their album sales speaks louder. 80,000 for 'Wordshaker', and only just 80,000 so far for 'Headlines' is rather poor. Groups from the 90s and early 00s would be dropped even if they sold more than that (perfect example: Sugababes - One Touch sold 220,000 - that's more than Wordshaker and Headlines put together, if we're going to put it in perspective, yet 220k was deemed poor). When you consider things like that, it's quite a miracle that The Saturdays continue to survive based on the album sales they achieve. They're one of the luckiest groups ever!

I don't think they even have a true concept of their own success levels; they're generally treated like they're a huge act and they certainly act like they're one too. Even Mis-Teeq's debut album sold about as much as Chasing Lights, Wordshaker and Headlines have done, combined. At the time, Mis-Teeq weren't exactly considered a big success story at all, despite album sales of nearly half a million. I wonder what it was about times gone by where an album selling in the region of 500,000 could be considered merely okay, whereas now The Saturdays can get away with 80,000 and seem like a big act? It's quite weird really.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, yes, their sales would make them on course to be one of the best selling girl groups, in terms of singles. However, they just happen to be around in a time when the singles market has completely changed and has fully embraced downloads, making the sales higher than they've been in a very long time. Their relative success in comparison to other British girl groups of the last 20 years - All Saints, Sugababes, Girls Aloud, Atomic Kitten, Eternal - is arguably much less.

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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby Javi » 29 Oct 2010, 11:30

^lol

I agree with everything. And congrats for writing such an extense post at that late hour lol
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Re: UK Sales (Estimates)

Postby spicefreak » 29 Oct 2010, 12:36

Ccompletely agree with what you are saying Jay!

I think the success of a song needs to be in comparison to the songs of its era, and also the impact of the song since Freak like me, Call the shots, and Stop are all onsidered far more successful than Ego and Up, despite having less or similar sales to those songs!
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