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Re: Spice Girls Singles/Albums UK Sales: Group & Solo

Postby Sglika » 08 Jun 2016, 22:08

Jay wrote:As far as I know, an individual can only contribute "0.7" sales to a particular track each week via streaming. Only 10 plays per day will count towards the chart, so if you play a track more than that in one day then those further plays won't contribute in any way. 10 plays in a day equates to 0.1 sales. So you'd have to play a track 70 times in one week to give that song 0.7 sales. So essentially one person can't contribute all that much to a song's sales via streaming. The problem of course is the sheer number of people that play a particular track per week, for a few weeks/months... so the contribution from streaming certainly adds up quite significantly.

I quite like Sammy's idea that one person could only contribute one sale's worth to a song in the end. That would at least limit the impact of streaming of a particular song over many months, or even years. However as previously mentioned, in the past people could buy more than one physical copy (particularly if it was sold in different formats) & also people can download different remixes of a song, not just the main version. So the chart has never really ever been a pure reflection of a song's popularity, there's always been a bit of manipulation. As things progress, I guess that manipulation is now the never ending impact of streaming.

I do miss the days when it was just physicals, in terms of the chart. I think out of everything it was near to being the most accurate representation of popularity. I mean buying a physical format wasn't too cheap & it required a certain level of motivation (i.e. going out to the shops). Not as simple as downloading or streaming for less money / in the comfort of your own home. Plus there was the fact physicals had a shelf-life, whereas downloads/streaming are never ending. That's the main reason really why I think it's unfair for a download/streaming hit of today to be put up against hits from the past that were physicals only and then stopped selling for years. I'd say that a Spice Girls single selling over 600,000 copies in the 90s was a lot more meaningful than a song that sells double that amount these days via downloads/streaming.



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Postby Jay » 27 Jun 2016, 19:48

The Official Albums Chart celebrates its 60th anniversary next month, and we've got some big celebrations lined up
27 June 2016
By Rob Copsey

Get your party poppers poised and birthday cakes in the oven, because this summer marks the 60th anniversary of the UK's Official Albums Chart!

Next month is exactly 60 years since Frank Sinatra’s Songs For Swingin’ Lovers became Britain’s first ever Number 1 album, when the inaugural Albums Chart was published in Record Mirror on 22 July 1956. Seven decades and nearly 1,100 Number 1s later, and the chart is now a cultural institution.

It's a big birthday (the chart's diamond anniversary no less!), and we've got lots planned to celebrate. On OfficialCharts.com, we'll be marking the occasion throughout the summer with a series of special features and interviews on the beloved format, kicking off in early July with the unveiling of the 60 biggest selling albums of all time.

We'll also be revealing the favourite albums of artists, music fans and industry experts on social media throughout July. We really want to hear which is your ultimate long player - tweet us with the hashtag #MyFavouriteAlbum to get involved.

Partners of the Official Charts Company MTV and BBC Radio 2 are also celebrating with us with a series of special programming, including the reveal of the biggest selling albums of the MTV years hosted by Roman Kemp, which premieres on MTV Classics on July 4, while Radio 2’s Steve Wright will present a special Bank Holiday Monday celebration of the UK’s all-time best-selling albums.

They'll also be a major in-store "60 at 60" albums campaign at retailers including Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Asda, Amazon and Morrison this summer, promoting some of the UK's biggest selling albums.

Official Charts chief executive Martin Talbot said: “We’re delighted that we can celebrate 60 years of the Official Albums Chart this summer. The album has long been the committed music fan’s format of choice, whether you love Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, Oasis, Adele, or any other artist over the past six decades.

"The albums chart is the pinnacle of weekly album superiority and this anniversary is a fantastic opportunity to celebrate the music artist’s body of work, which is particularly apt after a past year which has seen great new titles by the likes of Adele, Beyonce, David Bowie, Drake, Radiohead and many others."

More news on all of this will be coming your way very soon. Follow @OfficialCharts on Twitter (remember to tell us your #MyFavouriteAlbum) and Facebook for the latest updates, and check out the Official Albums Chart Top 100, published on OfficialCharts.com every Friday at 5.45pm.



Now the reason I've posted this is that 'Spice' is one of the 60 best selling albums of all-time, so hopefully we find out some new sales information for it very soon.

Might be worth people tweeting @officialcharts with the hashtag #MyFavouriteAlbum and saying it's 'Spice'.

Perhaps the 'Spice' album will go back on sale in the above mentioned stores? It does say "promoting some" so that might not end up being the case.
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Postby sammy01 » 27 Jun 2016, 20:19

Would be great if Spice is stocked in supermarkets as part of the 60 at 60 promotion. Especially given it is its anniversary year.
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Postby popboy7 » 27 Jun 2016, 21:52

So many anniversaries!
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Postby Sglika » 29 Jun 2016, 16:27

@OfficialCharts #MyFavouriteAlbum Spice By Spice Girls
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Postby Official Spiceworld » 02 Jul 2016, 23:19

I was looking on the Wikipedia page of 'Best Selling Albums' of all time.

A number of articles claim that the Spice Girls debut album 'Spice' sales stand at 31 million worldwide. Other albums that have only sold 31m are: Celine Dion - Let's Talk About Love, The Beatles - 1 and Adele's 21.

Above those four albums selling 31 and more, including Spice, there are only 18 albums which have sold 32m or more. This potentially means that Spice is in the Top 20 best selling albums of all time and definitely in the Top 25. Does anybody have the exact sales for Spice or for Adele, The Beatles etc....?

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The UK's official 60 biggest selling albums of all time are...
POS TITLE ARTIST YEAR HIGH POSN
1 GREATEST HITS QUEEN 1981 1
2 GOLD - GREATEST HITS ABBA 1992 1
3 SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND BEATLES 1967 1
4 21 ADELE 2011 1
5 WHAT'S THE STORY MORNING GLORY OASIS 1995 1
6 THRILLER MICHAEL JACKSON 1982 1
7 THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON PINK FLOYD 1973 2
8 BROTHERS IN ARMS DIRE STRAITS 1985 1
9 BAD MICHAEL JACKSON 1987 1
10 GREATEST HITS II QUEEN 1991 1
11 RUMOURS FLEETWOOD MAC 1977 1
12 THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION MADONNA 1990 1
13 BACK TO BLACK AMY WINEHOUSE 2006 1
14 STARS SIMPLY RED 1991 1
15 COME ON OVER SHANIA TWAIN 1997 1
16 LEGEND BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS 1984 1
17 BACK TO BEDLAM JAMES BLUNT 2004 1
18 URBAN HYMNS VERVE 1997 1
19 BAT OUT OF HELL MEAT LOAF 1977 9
20 1 BEATLES 2000 1
21 BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER SIMON & GARFUNKEL 1970 1
22 DIRTY DANCING ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK 1987 4
23 SPIRIT LEONA LEWIS 2007 1
24 CRAZY LOVE MICHAEL BUBLE 2009 1
25 NO ANGEL DIDO 2000 1
26 WHITE LADDER DAVID GRAY 1998 1
27 25 ADELE 2015 1
28 TALK ON CORNERS CORRS 1997 1
29 SPICE SPICE GIRLS 1996 1
30 THE FAME LADY GAGA 2008 1
31 A RUSH OF BLOOD TO THE HEAD COLDPLAY 2002 1
32 LIFE FOR RENT DIDO 2003 1
33 ONLY BY THE NIGHT KINGS OF LEON 2008 1
34 BEAUTIFUL WORLD TAKE THAT 2006 1
35 HOPES AND FEARS KEANE 2004 1
36 THE JOSHUA TREE U2 1987 1
37 THE WAR OF THE WORLDS JEFF WAYNE 1978 5
38 SCISSOR SISTERS SCISSOR SISTERS 2004 1
39 BUT SERIOUSLY PHIL COLLINS 1989 1
40 X&Y COLDPLAY 2005 1
41 JAGGED LITTLE PILL ALANIS MORISSETTE 1995 1
42 TUBULAR BELLS MIKE OLDFIELD 1973 1
43 THE MAN WHO TRAVIS 1999 1
44 TRACY CHAPMAN TRACY CHAPMAN 1988 1
45 PARACHUTES COLDPLAY 2000 1
46 GREATEST HITS ABBA 1975 1
47 GREASE ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK 1977 1
48 I'VE BEEN EXPECTING YOU ROBBIE WILLIAMS 1998 1
49 X ED SHEERAN 2014 1
50 COME AWAY WITH ME NORAH JONES 2002 1
51 GRACELAND PAUL SIMON 1986 1
52 THE SOUND OF MUSIC ORIGINAL CAST RECORDING 1965 1
53 LADIES & GENTLEMEN - THE BEST OF GEORGE MICHAEL 1998 1
54 TANGO IN THE NIGHT FLEETWOOD MAC 1987 1
55 THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP EMINEM 2000 1
56 SWING WHEN YOU'RE WINNING ROBBIE WILLIAMS 2001 1
57 PROGRESS TAKE THAT 2010 1
58 EYES OPEN SNOW PATROL 2006 1
59 NEVER FORGET - THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION TAKE THAT 2005 2
60 AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE REM 1992 1
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Postby Stas » 05 Jul 2016, 06:29

I have never understood why they include Greatest hits and Best ofs on the list. :shrug: I mean they would not nominate a compilation for the best album therefore I see no point in including compilations on the list.

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Postby Jay » 05 Jul 2016, 16:11

Interesting to know that 'Spice' is still within the Top 30 best sellers. I agree, mixing compilations and studio albums makes the list a bit "icky" (plus the random inclusion of the Dirty Dancing OST :think: ). At a quick glance, I think 'Spice' is the 22nd highest studio album?

Meh at the Wannabe article, very lazy - OCC have simply rehashed the article they did for the 19th anniversary. :( (Which they've deleted as of today, but it can still be seen via web cache.) Just like last year's article, they've used the "lower sales figure", 1.28m. They really can't make up their minds which figure to go with. :think: (Last August a TV channel did a countdown of "best selling female hits", with information provided by the OCC, and they said 1.36m for Wannabe). Ugh. Also, OCC clearly just want to attract clicks to their website for the anniversary, because as we know, 'Wannabe' wasn't even released yet this time 20 years ago, let alone at #1. Finally, lol at Biff calling them out in the comment section: "Lol. You can't even spell my name right let alone the facts!". :D
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Postby littleta » 08 Jul 2016, 18:29

could MW bring some sales today?
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Postby Official Spiceworld » 12 Jul 2016, 19:20

A number of articles are claiming that the total tally of Spice album sales are at 31 million
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Postby Jay » 12 Jul 2016, 19:24

When it comes to worldwide sales I can't help but deduce that their sales are made up at random, lol, when it comes to individual releases and their running total. 'Spice' increases or decreases by millions depending on the source, which leads me to believe an accurate figure just isn't known. :think: I too had noticed that "31 million" has been cited recently, which is higher than ever before.
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Postby Javi » 12 Jul 2016, 19:28

23 milion (or so) used to be the most given amount 15 years ago. I don't think the album has sold another 7-8 million for the past 15 years but it certainly must have sold nicely (at least 2-3 million, maybe more). So I guess the official number must be something higher than 25 million and definitely lower than 30.

Spiceworld must have passed the 20 million mark by now I guess. Unless the 18 million sales given back then were already very inflated.
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Postby Rub_rb » 12 Jul 2016, 19:36

31 million is extremely high.
They received an official plaque for 18 million in October 1997. Even if the album kept charting the following year in some territories, it sold the vast majority of its total during the 1st year. It obviously didn't sell another 13 million after that...

On the other hand, Brits 2000 video said "35 million albums sold worldwide", and I consider the Brits a reliable source.
21 million for Spice and 14 for SpiceWorld are reasonable figures, imo..

But as with almost every release prior the digital era, figures can be very inflated...
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Postby Official Spiceworld » 12 Jul 2016, 19:45

Rub_rb wrote:31 million is extremely high.
They received an official plaque for 18 million in October 1997. Even if the album kept charting the following year in some territories, it sold the vast majority of its total during the 1st year. It obviously didn't sell another 13 million after that...

On the other hand, Brits 2000 video said "35 million albums sold worldwide", and I consider the Brits a reliable source.
21 million for Spice and 14 for SpiceWorld are reasonable figures, imo..

But as with almost every release prior the digital era, figures can be very inflated...


I think by Feb 1998 Spiceworld had only sold around 10-12 million. So Spice must have been around 23-24 million?
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Official Spiceworld wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:31 million is extremely high.
They received an official plaque for 18 million in October 1997. Even if the album kept charting the following year in some territories, it sold the vast majority of its total during the 1st year. It obviously didn't sell another 13 million after that...

On the other hand, Brits 2000 video said "35 million albums sold worldwide", and I consider the Brits a reliable source.
21 million for Spice and 14 for SpiceWorld are reasonable figures, imo..

But as with almost every release prior the digital era, figures can be very inflated...


I think by Feb 1998 Spiceworld had only sold around 10-12 million. So Spice must have been around 23-24 million?


Feb 1998?

I'm talking about the Brits 2000.
When they received the award for Standing Comtribution to British Music Industry.
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Postby Official Spiceworld » 12 Jul 2016, 20:07

Rub_rb wrote:
Official Spiceworld wrote:
Rub_rb wrote:31 million is extremely high.
They received an official plaque for 18 million in October 1997. Even if the album kept charting the following year in some territories, it sold the vast majority of its total during the 1st year. It obviously didn't sell another 13 million after that...

On the other hand, Brits 2000 video said "35 million albums sold worldwide", and I consider the Brits a reliable source.
21 million for Spice and 14 for SpiceWorld are reasonable figures, imo..

But as with almost every release prior the digital era, figures can be very inflated...


I think by Feb 1998 Spiceworld had only sold around 10-12 million. So Spice must have been around 23-24 million?


Feb 1998?

I'm talking about the Brits 2000.
When they received the award for Standing Comtribution to British Music Industry.


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Postby Sman » 12 Jul 2016, 23:51

I'm still really disappointed the Official Charts didn't do a sales rundown for the girls last week. I really thought they would, as they usually tie "Top 5/10 best sellers' type lists into artists anniversaries or birthdays.
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Postby Jay » 12 Jul 2016, 23:53

^ Same! :( All they did was lazily copy and paste the article they did for the 19th anniversary, tut.
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Postby tommie » 12 Jul 2016, 23:58

WW sales figures is almost impossible to figure out - but most worldwide sales figures for albums in general seems very inflated. Just look at how the sales for Michael Jacksons Thriller seems to fluctate depending on what source you ask.
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Postby Rub_rb » 14 Jul 2016, 09:14

Updated UK sales for "Spice": 2.94 million

If I'm not wrong, last known figure was 2,928,739 by OCC in 2010.

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http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-new ... on__15414/
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Postby Jay » 14 Jul 2016, 23:16

Thanks for posting! Good to have an update on this. So only 60,000 away from 3 million... a really good anniversary re-release could sort that out? :angel:
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Postby PeruvianSpice » 15 Jul 2016, 01:22

I thought it was over 3 million already... oh well

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